Dish Network for ISP?

Levi Pearson levipearson at
Sat Oct 18 13:46:49 MDT 2014

Considering the logistics of bouncing IP traffic off of an orbiting
satellite, I can promise you it will not be a very pleasant
experience. Probably fine if you just need to download bulk data in
the background, but it will offer a terrible interactive experience
(compared to just about any non-broken terrestrial service), and it
will really only be usable interactively via some highly tweaked TCP
stack and application settings. RTTs *start* at a 1/4 of a second
here, and have you looked lately at the number of round-trips that
occur in a somewhat serialized fashion at the start of a web browsing

I actually used an older generation of satellite internet, as it was
the *only* service we could get at the time.  It required a dial-up
uplink, but I'm fairly sure that there are options now for satellite
uplink. DSL uplink would provide *better* service, though, as it
wouldn't incur the latency of bouncing data off an object in space. It
was just absolutely terrible, and although I could bulk download
faster than dial-up, doing anything interactive like ssh or web
browsing was excruciatingly painful.

There are some solutions to the problems inherent in satellite
internet (i.e. lots of low-orbiting satellites) but I don't think
there's currently anything in place, and it might be hard to convince
anyone who's suffered through previous satellite internet incarnations
that the new ones might actually work.

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Nicholas Leippe <nick at> wrote:
> I have a friend in Utah county looking at getting internet service via
> reenabling a dish network account. The dish rep has told her that they
> offer two options: 1) via satellite service, or 2) via their own dsl
> service.
> Previously, she had service through them and dish's internet service was
> actually a bundled centurylink account--which she does not want.
> Dish's reps refuse (or cannot) confirm what exactly they are offering and
> she doesn't want to wait for the installer to show up to find out it's
> something she doesn't want. Also, my understanding is that some satellite
> services still use a modem/dsl for the uplink--is this still true?
> Can anyone confirm what exactly dish has to offer now?
> Her only other viable option would be Digis, but that could prove painful
> given some logistic issues of her current home.
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