Defining Terrorism

keith smith klsmith2020 at
Tue Jun 25 19:54:11 MDT 2013

Yes action is required.  If you act on your own you are on your own.  

 reduced Gideon army to 300 fighting men. God did this because He wanted
 the Israelites to know it was God not man who won the battle.  Man had 
to do his part, however it was God who did the heavy lifting.  You can 
read this great story in Judges 6.

My Heroes are men like Gideon,
 David and Abraham.  Abraham was the father of faith.  David was a great
 warrior.  Maybe the best of them all.  He lead with honor and with 

Acts 13:22

New International Version (NIV)

 After removing Saul, He made David their king. God testified concerning
 him: ‘I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart; he 
will do everything I want him to do.’

My point is we must seek God first, then we can act after much counsel.

Proverbs 20:18New International Version (NIV)
18 Plans are established by seeking advice;
    so if you wage war, obtain guidance.


Clinton says who cares how it happened.

 has been reported no one knows where the Prez was at during the 
attack.  It has been reported he was getting his beauty sleep so he 
could attend a fund raiser the next day.  
I recall hearing a general
 say f-15, maybe f-16 were in range and needed inflight refueling. I 
think he said he had his group on the tarmac and were ready to go when 
they were given the order to stand down.  I understand they estimated 
they could have reach the embassy in time.

Rice lied, saying it 
was a video that upset the Muslims because it portrayed Allah in a bad 
light.  So did BO, Biden, and others, to include Clinton.  

maybe a C130 might not have been of much help.  We will never know will 
we?  I'm sure in due time it will come out and we will know the rest of 
the story.  For now it is very clear there was an attempted cover up.  And some things are still being withheld.

I would not have given up on the embassy just because it was difficult or the odds were against me.  I would have tried.  

The president got the call at 2:00am and he failed.  Test over!! 

Now lets talk about the repeated request for more security.  Why was it repeatedly denied?

 is it the President is never involved in anything.  It is always some 
rogue Gov employee.  It's never the Prez's fault.  He takes 
responsibility for nothing.

>From where I sit it appears that Stevens knew too much and was sacrificed.

I think someone had big hopes for you Joshua.  I too have big hopes for you.  We need you to be the leader you were born to be.

Joshua 1 New International Version (NIV)
Joshua Installed as Leader1 After the death of Moses the servant of the Lord, the Lord said to Joshua son of Nun, Moses’ aide: 2 “Moses my servant is dead. Now then, you and all these people, get ready to cross the Jordan River into the land I am about to give to them—to the Israelites. 3 I will give you every place where you set your foot, as I promised Moses. 4 Your territory will extend from the desert to Lebanon, and from the great river, the Euphrates—all the Hittite country—to the Mediterranean Sea in the west. 5 No one will be able to stand against you all the days of your life. As I was with Moses, so I will be with you; I will never leave you nor forsake you. 6 Be strong and courageous, because you will lead these people to inherit the land I swore to their ancestors to give them.


Keith Smith

--- On Tue, 6/25/13, Joshua Fenio <std3rr at> wrote:

From: Joshua Fenio <std3rr at>
Subject: Re: Defining Terrorism
To: "keith smith" <klsmith2020 at>
Cc: "High TrafficProvo Linux Users Group Mailing List - 100% Unmoderated" <plug at>
Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013, 5:50 PM

On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:35 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at> wrote:

I think more can be accomplished by :

2 Chronicles 7:14 New International Version (NIV)
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Jesus has the power.  

Ah yes!  Praying!  You're quite the freedom fighter.  I mean, Horatio Gates stopped the British at the Battle of Saratoga with the power of prayer.  Paul Revere organized the communication to Charleston and Lexington about the British invading by communing with God.  I'm sure the Founders would readily admit that action isn't needed when you believe you're being oppressed and are forced to stop those who are abusing power - all you have to do is pray.

What a lazy and cowardly interpretation of the Bible.  Do you really think God doesn't want you to take action - he's going to take care of it for you?  That's pathetic - and it should be offensive to any Christian capable of critical thinking.


Answer me this:  What do you think happened in Benghazi?

What do I think happened at Benghazi?  I'm not going to presume to assert that I know everything that happened at Benghazi - but I can tell you that there was probably a breakdown in communications, and that there weren't any refueling tankers at Aviano to support a C-130 mission - and even if there was, I have serious doubts C-130 air support would do anything but more harm in an attack like Benghazi.

See, unlike you, I don't need to take every tragedy that happens and fit it into some global conspiracy theory that I prescribe to.  I don't make the facts fit my already held beliefs - they inform my beliefs and allow them to evolve.   

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