Personal Cloud (was: Did Ed Snowden do the right thing?)

keith smith klsmith2020 at
Tue Jun 11 10:49:23 MDT 2013

Who was it that had the secret banking and reported all the secret account info to the U.S.?  Wasn't that Switzerland?


Keith Smith

--- On Tue, 6/11/13, Nathan England <nathan at> wrote:

From: Nathan England <nathan at>
Subject: Re: Personal Cloud (was: Did Ed Snowden do the right thing?)
To: "Provo Linux Users Group" <plug at>
Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 9:46 AM

On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:04:39 AM John Shaver wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Joshua Marsh <joshua at>wrote:
> >  about all this, it reminded me of Phil Whindley's Key note at
> > 
> > OWC. His talk wasn't primarily about security, but more along the lines of
> > the need to have your own personal cloud. I love the idea of owning your
> > own data, storing it in a place that you alone control, and using your own
> > safe guards. Then if the government wanted it, I'd be the person they were
> > asking.
> I have thought of this on many occasions and how it would be best to go
> about this.  In particular, host my own email and DNS seems a good place to
> start.  However how can you truly self host this?
> Typically you would need to host this with a hosting services of some
> kind.  If you host it from your home internet connection, you're still
> using an ISP that can be subpenaed for information.
> If you are hosting with hosting service, you can encrypt your drives and
> data, but you would need to avoid virtualization, as memory and other data
> processing can be monitored by the hosting environment.
> I'm wondering if any others have put much thought into this, or implemented
> their own?  I don't really have a question, it just seems like an
> interesting topic for discussion. :)
> -John

I'm thinking initially we need to find a country that is nuetral and does not require 
ISPs to turn over information. I actually looked into this about a year ago and I wanted 
to put a server in Switzerland. A man at my church is from Switzerland and was going 
to put me in contact with his brothers, who still live there, so I could ship a computer 
to them to put in their house. I dropped the ball and never got around to it... boy I 
could be seriously ahead of the game here if I hadn't!!!


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