PLUG - You Make The Call

Levi Pearson levipearson at
Tue Jun 11 03:58:03 MDT 2013

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Ryan Simpkins <plug at> wrote:

> When I asked this question I simply had no idea it would turn in to such a
> deeply emotional debate. This is arguably one of the most important
> discussions to have ever taken place on this list. I want you all to know I
> have read every single post and considered them all carefully. Every post has
> been incredibly valuable and filled with meaningful point of view. Every
> comment was needed (except sjansens, what is wrong with that guy?). I have a
> message I'd like you all to read:

What have you got against sjansen?  I found his posts clean and
refreshing, not entirely unlike soap-on-a-rope after wrestling with

> Mormon, Christian, Jew, Atheist, Buddhist, Humanist, Hindu, Muslim, and other
> isims, ists, and religious or non-religious persons. Here this!
> The United States Government has likely been tracking the following
> information for all Americans:
> * Who you have telephoned.
> * Your location during the call.
> * The length of that call.
> * Who called you.
> * What you said via text (presumably).
> * Certain aspects of your Internet activities
> * Possibly some of your private communications, up to and including phone
> calls, e-mails, videos, etc.

Fortunately, I haven't been conferring with Nazis or anything.  At
most, they may have some of my musings about philosophy and/or bacon.
Mmmm, bacon.

> The government has been doing this irrespective of your religious points of
> view, and in some cases possibly because of them. Do not let those points of
> view stop you from applying the same reasoned thinking you brought to the
> great top post flame fests of 2010, or the "language wars" of 2008, or even
> the heady days of the "editor battles" long ago (vim won, by the way). Turn on
> those geek brains and start thinking about how to either solve this problem,
> or please go blow away your Ubuntu partition and install Windows 8. If you
> can't see why this is important then NO ROOT FOR YOU!
> There is a great deal of room for people of all religious points of view and
> walks of life. I participate in the Salt Lake Interfaith Roundtable. An
> organization that is dedicated to the understanding and cooperation of all
> religious beliefs and backgrounds. Every major faith in the area participates,
> as does the LDS church, including most of the minor faiths. What I have
> learned will shock you: We are all exactly alike.

That is precisely what the Illuminati would like you to think.  But,
all in all, you're just another brick in the wall.

> It is fine if you point to scripture, philosophy, or science as your moral
> guide so long as you come to this basic conclusion: We need to work together
> to stand up for what we collectively feel is right. Before we can do that we
> need to narrowly decide if the United States Government is right or wrong in
> the case at hand. That certainly takes communication. It also takes humility.
> Here is a helpful phrase to repeat 10 times a day: "My root partition may be
> corrupted. My memory may be throwing errors. Someone may have chmod'd all my
> binaries 0400. It is okay to be wrong, so long as I can fix it. I have a
> rescue disk."
> This list, right here, is one of the last totally open community based public
> forums with a culture of rational thought and deep analysis in our area. You
> all collectively decide what will fly and what will not. I do have one
> suggestion: Please remember that ~500 people will get your message. Therefore,
> I trust you will be considerate of their point of view and potential
> sensitivity to petty argument and lack of reasoned analysis. Geeks simply
> won't tolerate it.
> - note -
> Please do not respond to this thread unless you include ALL of the following
> words in the post: sjansen, bacon, Nazis, soap on a rope, Illuminati, a lyric
> from any Pink Floyd song.

Be careful what you ask for!

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