Backing Up Everything to Removable Disks

S. Dale Morrey sdalemorrey at
Mon Feb 25 16:02:11 MST 2013

I know this isn't exactly what you are looking for, but I just
finished a project where we got rid of the tape system all together.
Backup to S3, then setup S3 so any backups over 14 days old go into Glacier.
Amazon also just launched a new data warehousing service as well, but
I haven't had the chance to play with it yet.
When you look at the costs of tape and equipment and labor to manage
the system, an S3/Glacier option really is becoming a very competitive
option, just make sure to encrypt the backups if it's sensitive data.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Tod Hansmann < at> wrote:
> I'm looking at replacing work's current tape backup system.  Currently,
> this is a poblem where we're using tapes of a certain size, and we're
> maxing out that size so it's spilling over to two tapes, which is messing
> up rotations.  Getting bigger tapes in this instance requires upgrading the
> tape system, which is ridiculously expensive.  So, disk storage being cheap
> as all get, and easy to implement (physically anyway), I figured I'd look
> at that direction.
> We have Windows servers and a lot more Linux servers to backup bits from.
> Every piece of software I've looked at sucks, and very few of them want to
> do DAS targets.  DAS would probably make managing the drives for swapping
> out easier, but that's just my opinion.  Not to mention, all the software I
> have found is also rather expensive for managing the copying of files.  I'd
> pay a few hundred for something, but everything I've found either doesn't
> do DAS (online is the new thing, unless you have TBs of data to backup and
> can't do that online) or kills you in all the "agents" licenses they'd need.
> What have you seen that isn't crap and will backup to a local disk I can
> then swap out like a tape?  Also, Amanda is cool, but I can't seem to find
> any docs about DAS as a target.  The enterprise zmanda does, but Amanda
> seems fairly limited.  I might mess with it if someone has better
> experience than my VERY limited exposure.
> (As an aside, seriously, backup software sucks, especially in the restore
> area.  What ever happened to backing up files and then just giving me a
> dialog to choose what files and what timeslice I wanted to restore them
> to?  Why is that so difficult for backup vendors to get?)
> Cheers,
> -Tod Hansmann
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