Webdev: the times, they are a changin'

S. Dale Morrey sdalemorrey at gmail.com
Wed Apr 18 20:04:30 MDT 2012

Well I'm planning to use it to build a crowdsourcing website similar to
kickstarter.  Maybe I could do a post mortem this fall after it launches.
Would anyone care to attend?
On Apr 18, 2012 7:57 PM, "Levi Pearson" <levipearson at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:29 PM, S. Dale Morrey <sdalemorrey at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Ok so has anyone here actually tried Scala & Liftweb?  My opinion is that
> > its by far the best solution for most of what we've been talking about.
> I have played with it, but not extensively.  It definitely has some
> cool ideas in it.  I really like the template system and the way
> server-push stuff is integrated.  But it's not anywhere near the sort
> of 'easy like PHP' solution the OP was talking about.  You've got a
> steep learning curve for Scala along with a steep learning curve for
> Liftweb, and although Scala and Liftweb have some high-profile users,
> it's nowhere near common.  And the primary creator of Liftweb even
> says Scala is hard for the average programmer, and will not produce
> short or long term benefits unless you've got a '95th percentile skill
> level' team.
> So, yeah.  I'd love to see more people play with Liftweb and some of
> the cool Haskell-based web frameworks (Yesod is pretty slick, as are
> some of the others), but that would imply significantly more people
> learning Scala and Haskell, and that seems unlikely.  But if you give
> a presentation on Scala & Liftweb, I'll show up. :)
>         --Levi
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