Webdev: the times, they are a changin'

S. Dale Morrey sdalemorrey at gmail.com
Wed Apr 18 12:29:18 MDT 2012

Ok so has anyone here actually tried Scala & Liftweb?  My opinion is that
its by far the best solution for most of what we've been talking about.
On Apr 18, 2012 12:24 PM, "Stuart Jansen" <sjansen at buscaluz.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 09:45 -0600, Stephen M. McQuay wrote:
> > Also, no mention of the node.js hyperphenomenon?!?! ;)
> Since I did the node.js presentation recently, I guess I should respond.
> node.js is awesome, but...
> Most modern web development projects should be built using a framework.
> There are no amazing frameworks for node.js yet. Express is okay, but
> it's not all that (to say nothing of the bag of chips).
> There's several node.js frameworks with serious hype. For example:
> Mojito, Meteor, and Derby (not to be confused with Apache Derby). Push
> past the hype, though, and none is as exciting as Rails was at its peak.
> Not every project needs a framework. Most languages build a todo list to
> demonstrate how "easy" they are to use. It's cliche at this point to
> built a chat server in node.js to make the same point. But let's be
> honest, most projects need more than a chat server.
> Don't get me wrong. I think node.js is really exciting. However, most of
> the things that suck in other languages still suck when you're using
> node. There's a handful of things that are much easier, but they're
> balanced by the fact that node isn't as mature yet.
> Maybe that's why so little has been said about node. Or maybe it's
> because most of Plug hasn't played with it yet.
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