Webdev: the times, they are a changin'

Tod Hansmann plug.org at todandlorna.com
Tue Apr 17 18:49:52 MDT 2012

On 4/17/2012 2:57 PM, John Shaver wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Lonnie Olson<lists at kittypee.com>  wrote:
>> * PHP can scale very well, see wordpress.com
> I wouldn't use wordpress as an example of that.  Wordpress has a huge
> security vulnerability discovered nearly every other day.  In my
> (probably meaningless) opinion this is largely due to their choice of
> PHP.  However I understand why they choose to continue using it.  It's
> pretty much on every webserver out there.  It's like a virus really.
For posterity: I never said PHP didn't scale.  Scalability in web these 
days is less about language and more about design of the web app, the IT 
environment, the network, etc.  I said PHP didn't perform.  And it 
doesn't, comparatively speaking.  That may or may not matter in whatever 
we might do with it, but it is there.

In related news: I think I'm settling on some interesting results for my 
own projects (ymmv).  For simple projects where I just want to display a 
page with some dynamic bits, a simple mod_php style structure with some 
quick scripts to serve up stuff is great.  For complex sites with things 
like a userbase and lot's of changing/sensitive data, a web framework 
with tools to help manage a lot of that is likely more useful.  What you 
choose for either scenario is still (as we always knew) probably more 
determined by your language choice, maintainability factors, and 
supportability needs.

Again, your mileage may very.

-Tod Hansmann

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