Von Fugal von at
Mon Nov 15 14:24:19 MST 2010

<quote name="Kimball Larsen" date="Fri, 12 Nov 2010 at 21:38 -0700">
> On Nov 12, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Von Fugal wrote:
> As the aforementioned webserver guy (idiot to some) I'd like to point
> out that I DID specifically ask about port 80 as one of my first
> questions to the salesman in the store as well as over the phone to
> their national call in center.  I also briefly skimmed their TOS, but
> missed the bit about restrictions on port 80, as I had already been
> assured twice that there were no restrictions at all.

I never realized you were the actual web server guy. :) I'm glad you did
ask about port 80 specifically and I'm sorry you got the runaround.

> > There is plenty of blame to go around. It doesn't make the webserver
> > guy stupid, it doesn't make Clear evil and nefarious.
> I never said that they were evil or nefarious... the point of my blog
> post and in my warning to Von was to make noise about the fact that
> you will likely be given an uninformed version of reality by the sales
> staff, and I thought Von would appreciate knowing what he was getting
> into from someone who once tried.  I'm glad that Clear will meet his
> needs.

I didn't think that you did. It was everyone else jumping on net
"neutrality", crying foul, we're all doomed at the mercy of the evil
providers if we let clear get away with not providing port 80. I
appreciated the warning. For me it was a non-issue.

> > Just because an ISP (or whatever company) has a policy you dislike
> > doesn't mean they did it for no other reason than to be evil and
> > spite you. 99% of their customers probably don't care at all. It
> > does not give you a right to force them through whatever ill
> > conceived governmental coercion to provide you with what you want.
> > You want something, go PAY someone to provide it for you. There is
> > no right to a service.
> Bingo.  I found another provider who was very clear about what they
> were willing to provide, and at what price point.  I am currently very
> satisfied with my setup, and willing to pay for it without complaint.

Good on ya! ;)
Von Fugal
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