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Steven Alligood steve at bluehost.com
Fri Dec 11 14:00:27 MST 2009

OK, example.

My brother's team at his (undisclosed) company (on the east coast, not 
here, so don't start rumors).

The VP showed up, took half the team in one room, the other half in the 
other room.

The half my brother was not part of was all told that they were being 
let go due to financial reasons.


They kept them employed for two more months, during which time the 
corporate HR was working with them to find them placement in other parts 
of the company.

They are also going to pay six additional weeks of severance, at the end 
of the two months.

Of course, the rules as they are, if the employees find similar 
employment within other parts of the company, and within 25% of their 
previous salary, they don't get the severance pay.

So, more than most companies would do, but still what they can do to 
save themselves money.

Take from it what you will.

On 12/11/2009 01:38 PM, Merrill Oveson wrote:
> I know this thread has gone on and on, I can't help but add a bit more....
> It seems that too often employees get treated as disposable assets, while at
> the same time are expected to be loyal.
> Case in point:
> Typically, when an employee leaves a company, he/she gives at least two
> weeks notice - sometimes more.
> And in my experience, is often asked to train the replacement and is
> expected to remain at least somewhat available in case questions come up.
> Basically, "you know your decision to leave has left us in a real bind,
> please help us make this transition..."
> Now when an employee's employment get terminated, that's the end.  The
> employer, at least in my experience, never helps make the transition for the
> employee.
> The employee pleas of "you know your decision to terminate my employment
> here has left me in a real bind, please help me make this transition."
> Now I understand that business have to let people go.
> But just once I'd like to hear of a situation similar to the following:
> "We're so sorry, but we need to let you go.  We understand that this will
> put you in a real bind."
> "To help we're going to give you two weeks severance."
> "We'll do everything we can to see that you get unemployment, and that your
> eligible for COBRA etc."
> "We'll also do everything we can to see that you get another job as soon as
> possible, please feel free to use us as a recommendation."
> "Again, we're really sorry."
> It just seems that relationship between employer and employee is really
> asymmetric.  That's probably because they are more people that needs jobs
> than available jobs, however
> I don't believe that anyway to treat another human being.
> My $.02
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Richard Esplin
> <richard-lists at esplins.org>wrote:
>> It's dangerous to treat people as disposable assets. The police are really
>> good at finding where you put them.
>> On Thu 10 December 2009 13:48:27 Merrill Oveson<moveson at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> Most of the time, people get treated as disposable assets.
>> <snip>
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