[OT] Re: HB 139 Meeting Today ?

Jason Hall jayce at lug-nut.com
Fri Feb 8 10:43:27 MST 2008

On Feb 8, 2008 9:58 AM, Nathan Blackham <kemotaha at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 8, 2008 9:38 AM, Mister E <Mister.Ed at agoracart.com> wrote:
> The ACLU will fight any fight that is against civil rights.  They are
> blind
> when it comes to other issues.  Yes this means they have supporters who
> are
> communists or socialist.  Primarily because they fight for their
> liberties.
> If it is an issue where civil rights are involved the ACLU will gladly
> help.  That would be the case if a religion was discriminated against as
> well as race or creed.  Just because they have backed seemly evil ideas
> doesn't mean the organizations is evil.

They will blindly fight for their perception (the perception of the given
lawyer) of specific rights, and *against* others.  Research each case, and
the motives each time.

>  You need to be
> careful to actually look at why an organization or movement exist before
> calling it evil.

Roger Baldwin founder of the ACLU stated:

"We are for Socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state
itself. We seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the
propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth.
Communism is the goal."

While he later expelled Soviet socialists from the group, that was limited
to Stalinistic communism only, as with many other groups that were

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