[OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

Von Grant Fugal von at fugal.net
Fri Dec 5 09:18:21 MST 2008

<quote name="Nicholas Leippe" date="Fri,  5 Dec 2008 at 08:26 -0700">
> On Thursday 04 December 2008 09:17:16 pm Von Fugal wrote:
> > I'm curius why since you are so adamantly oppose to the federal reserve
> > and central banks, yet you seem to think the function they perform
> > (expanding the money supply) is so necessary. I agree with all you said
> > about the fed, but not only shouldn't the fed control money, nobody
> > should. Money supply should not be expandable under any power. I would
> > concede that inflation is inevitable, but I don't think it's good or
> > necessary (if somehow we were able to have a money that never expanded I
> > don't believe that would generate any problems), but inescapable... ya.
> > Does that mean we should allow some consortium of men to perform the
> > inflation deliberately? Absolutely not!
> I believe the amount of currency per capita should remain fairly constant, in 
> order to facilite the exchange of goods.
> If the capita is growing, and the currency supply is not, then there is 
> obviously less to go around. Scarceness of currency causes poverty. There is 
> ample history to demonstrate this.
There is less MONEY to go around, but I will say it time and time again,

Why is it bad for me or anyone else, if when capita increases, we all
have less money? There's more people per unit money, but there's also
more goods per unit money, so really it all balances out.

How does constant per capita money facilitate exchange? If the US
population doubled tomorrow, those new people would absorb approx half
the money supply. I can see why this would be problematic, but such
dramatic change does not occur. With the doubling, eventually all the
new people would become producers (you might even say they would become
producers by necessity before they absorbed any of the money supply) so
at the same time they are shrinking the per capita money supply, they
are also increasing product, or generally maintaining a relatively
constant per capita production (in reality per capita production goes up
over time, THIS is economic growth, THIS is wealth, regardless what the
money does.) So if everyone makes pies, and there's on average one pie
per person. What mattereth it that now there's twice as many pies, twice
as many people, but we all have half the money with which to buy pies?
Pies would simply cost half as much. In reality such changes take place
gradually, giving plenty of time for these adjustments to happen
naturally and smoothly.

> Thus where our capita is growing, so should our currency supply. In fact, it 
> really should be in lock-step. If we have a decrease in capita, the currency 
> supply should be likewise reduced. I don't see how this would be so difficult 
> to regulate. You make the decision once, up front, to regulate it based on a 
> mathematical formula that takes population (from a census perhaps) and 
> whatever other economic indicators you choose and go with it. Once a year you 
> make an adjustment, on queue. No big board of directors doing whatever 
> adjustment they "feel" "might" help (or suit their own agendas)...
How do you propose to distribute this new money in lockstep with capita
changes? Perhaps you could give each newborn an average savings worth of
money in a trust fund. Anything less than this is redistribution of
wealth and is abhorrently immoral. The capita increases and so does the
money supply. What then? The printers of the money benefit first, then
the first receivers of that money, and so on, until the average American
is just completely screwed over because he doesn't see that new 'per
capita' money until it's value AND the value of the money he already had
AND his paycheck are ALL devalued! Inflation is theft any way you look
at it. At least with gold the inflators actually have to do some work to
mine that gold, so that's not theft, it's work. But printing new fiat,
theft in my book.

You mention astrian economics. I haven't delved to deep into it myself,
but from most of my conversations with other subscribers to austrian
economics, I was under the distinct impression my views were highly
aligned with austrian economics; maybe I was wrong?

Von Fugal
Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure
-- Robert Lefevre
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