[OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

Kyle Waters unum at unum5.org
Thu Dec 4 16:25:20 MST 2008

Bryan Sant wrote:
> The furthest I could go is how Wikipedia states that it is a,
> "quasi-public (government entity with private components) banking
> system".  Quasi-public indeed.

ok.  And that's exactly what it is a government entity. No argument here.
>> He organized the Democratic-Republican party and they always referred to
>> themselves as Republicans.  Now it is true that modern democrats like to
> Really?  Gee, right here it states that, "The Democratic Party traces
> its origins to the Democratic-Republican Party, founded by Thomas
> Jefferson..."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)

The modern democratic party traces it's origins to Thomas Jefferson, but 
I already said that.....

>> look back at him an Jackson as their party founders(this is kind of hard on
>> me as I consider my self a democrat and they are two of my least favorite
>> presidents.
> That's because modern day Democrats have abandoned their original
> liberal (as in liberty) origins and are now the "Progressive" party of
> American Socialism.  If you subscribe to today's Democratic views,
> then of course you wouldn't agree with the liberal views of Jefferson
> (or really any of our founders).
It depends on which policies we are discussing.  We are discussing 
monetary policy.  I agree with Hamilton there should be a strong central 
bank.  He also supported the federal government backing specialized 
economic pursuits, which I also agree with.  However the federalist 
tended to mix religion and government and I don't agree with that so much.

Very few of the founding fathers were as libertarian as many people like 
to believe.  There were those that thought the federal government should 
do more(Adams, Hamiliton, arguably even Washington), and there are those 
who thought it should do less(Jefferson, at least before he was 
president :)).  But it was mostly an argument about federal power.  Most 
of them did not argue against local government power.


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