[OT] Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

Bryan Sant bryan.sant at gmail.com
Thu Dec 4 15:09:26 MST 2008

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Michael Torrie <torriem at gmail.com> wrote:
> What's interesting is that the solution is spun as being "socialist" or
> "anti-free-market."  I mean the government's involvement with anything
> is wrong.  Interesting that Libertarians call for a return to the gold
> standard, which would have the effect of nationalizing the national
> reserve (not necessarily a bad thing) and require explicit government
> control over the price of gold.

Yes, and this is because Libertarians believe in the Constitution
which states in Article 1, Section 8, that the Congress shall have
power to...

"To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and
fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and
current Coin of the United States;"


Among the few things that the Federal Government SHOULD do is mint and
regulate money.  The Federal Reserve is as "Federal" as Federal
Express.  I love free enterprise all day long, but I think is
ridiculous and suspicious that our government has abdicated its
responsibility to mint and regulated money to a private central bank.

Thomas Jefferson (co-founder of the Democratic party) said,

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our
liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow
private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by
inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will
grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until
their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers

Woodrow Wilson, who later said after pushing the Federal Reserve Act into law,

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country.
A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit.
Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation,
therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.
We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely
controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world.
No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by
conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by
the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

Somewhat unrelated (but who can miss a chance to quote Jefferson?),
Jefferson also said...

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them."

"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas
which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
are willing to work and give to those who would not."


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