Ameros will clog the tubes - was Re: Network Neutrality

Von Fugal von at
Thu Dec 4 10:07:42 MST 2008

<quote name="Michael Torrie" date="Wed,  3 Dec 2008 at 23:08 -0700">
> Von Fugal wrote:
> > Come get your ameros!
> The amero conspiracy theory is one of the funniest things I've heard in
> a long time.
I laughed. More on conspiracy theory below.

> And in regards to your other commend about the falling dollar, well it's
> simply not so.  The dollar is as strong right now as it was at the
> beginning of 2007 before it fell to par with the canadian dollar, which
> was only a temporary thing.  It currently is taking a beating (not as
> much though) because of the current crisis.  Check the 2-year exchange
> against the Euro if you don't believe me (the euro has been extremely
> stable lately).
I wonder which situation is really the temporary one? Let's see, since
1933, when the gold standard was abandoned, the dollar lost anywhere
from 94% to 99% of it's value. This is looking at 2006-2007, so the
dollar being as strong now as 2007 before falling is most likely the
temporary situation, and I guarantee it will continue to follow the
devaluation trend, especially what with nearly a trillion dollars in new
debt basically overnight? And the dollar is going to continue to be
strong? The inflation trend is most definitely not in a reversal, the
relatively strong dollar of today is the temporary situation, the
collapse of the dollar is the long term trend.

> The Amero just isn't ever going to happen.  I can assure you that
> Canadians are overwhelmingly against any currency union, despite the
> fact that it was a Canadian think tank that first postulated about a
> unified north american currency.  From a canadian point of view an Amero
> would be devastating to the Canadian economy.  Canada is primarily and
> exporting country, and it exports 80% of its goods to the US.  Thus it's
> to Canada's advantage to have a lower valued currency against the US
> dollar.  Thus the high canadian dollar hurt Canada a bit last summer.
> Trading with such a large country on an equal currency footing would be
> suicide for Canada in general.
> Furthermore, the US dollar is already the de facto currency in Mexico
> for folks with any money, so there's really no point in an official
> unified currency that'd just be dragged down in value by Mexico's
> economy and endemic government corruption.  Right now they get all the
> advantages of having the dollar as their currency without any of the
> other stuff that would come with actually owning a currency.
I agree, the Amero will probably never happen. I wouldn't say it's
impossible, and there's definately people out there who want it to
happen and do what they can to make it happen. Above you called it a
funny conspiracy theory. I feel too often that term is thrown around
with feckless disdain for a particular viewpoint that one feels is
unlikely, outlandish, improbable, or any other degree of disagreement.
So while I agree the Amero is highly improbable and certainly
outlandish, I have to counter that thus labeling it conspiracy theory is
somewhat disingenuous. For one, it's not even a theory, it's a real
agenda that is openly out there.

> The European union was an overdue joining of states (sound familiar?) to
> better compete in a global market.  That and the adoption of the Euro
> has more in common with the founding of the United States (same thing!)
> and the eventual establishment of the dollar as a common currency among
> them than it does with some supposed socialist conspiracy.  The US is
> already a union of states.  So there's no need for further unions of any
> kind.
What about the european union? Because Amero sounds like Euro? Nobody
said the Amero had anything to do with the Euro, besides maybe a clever
naming gimmick. But as you point out, the Amero is nothing like the
Euro, so the naming gimmick is aimed at acceptance of the Amero, not
some attempt by the so called "conspiracy theorists" to discredit it.

> So no.  Don't worry about the so-called "Amero."  It just isn't going to
> happen.
I'll worry about so far as I can be informed and not be blindsided by

Von Fugal
Government is a disease that masquerades as its own cure
-- Robert Lefevre
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