Best Computer Science School in Utah

Brandon Stout bms at
Mon Sep 24 23:01:32 MDT 2007

I got my MS degree from the Universtiy of Phoenix.  UOP also has a BS 
program in CIS.  This degree may not be what most of you are looking for 
since it's more of a management degree - management over CIS employees.  
I liked attending UOP because:

  1. I had enough tuition reimbursement to pay for it
  2. The flexnet program allowed me to meet my classmates the first day 
and last day of class
  3. All other weeks were online discussions, sort of like this list, 
but nntp instead of imap or pop

As a working adult, the flexnet program was well suited for my needs and 
I learned a lot, as one should expect with a MS program.  There were a 
few serious drawbacks to the program:

  1. They are Microsoft partnered, so they used all Microsoft Office 

That looks like one point, but really, it's many: Microsoft Project, 
Microsoft SQL Server, Microsoft Visio, Microsoft Word, Microsoft 
Excel... etc.  As I went through the program, I was forever promoting 
Open Source, making presentations with Open Office, presenting material 
about MySQL instead of MS SQL Server, etc.  UOP policy stated that all 
students should have MS Office.  I refused to buy a legal copy of MS 
Office for $400 or so and refused to use pirated software (which I bet 
most of the other classmates were using), so I did all my work in Open 
Office.  I already understood the MS stuff - I was a Sr tech for all of 
them a few years ago.  I wanted to get more learning out of my MS degree.

That's a drawback to several Universities.  I'd say way too many of them 
teach their students MS products exclusively.  I argue that any 
University CS department that only studies and uses MS products cannot 
be a quality CS department?  I'd love to see BYU go Open Source.

Has anyone experienced a good CS program that promotes Open Source, or 
at least a contrast of MS against OS?  That's what I'd like to hear about.

Brandon Stout

John Anderson wrote:
> On 9/24/07, Stephen Shaw <sshaw at> wrote:
>> That really depends.  There are some problems that focus on theory
>> and others that focus on practical experience.
>> Stephen
> Yeah, I was hoping people would give their reasons for why they think its
> the best,
> everyone has their opinion on whats more important.
> So, to clear things up, I want to add "And why?" =)

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