UVSC BYU U of U etc was"Software Engineering (was Re: Java)

Mark Higbee mark at impactprocessing.com
Fri Feb 16 13:39:58 MST 2007

I know I was a little overboard on the my comment about those who can do 
and those who can't teach.
I am still just a little bitter over  some of my college experiences.  I 
agree that not all professors are lame maybe just a few professors that 
I had are.

It seemed like the professors I had would always start the class saying 
things like I have a PHD in math but I have never had a programming job 
and you will have to work with me this semester.  It always bothered me 
that I would pay good money for someone to teach the class who really 
wasn't qualified to teach the class.  When people would ask questions 
the professor would say things like I don't know maybe you can go try 
that in the computer lab. 

Also I agree the best thing you can learn is how to learn on your own.  
One thing is for sure in the CS world if you stop learning you will not 
be very successful.

Hans Fugal wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 at 12:20 -0700, Mark Higbee wrote:
>> I think the real point of going to a college or university is to get the 
>> skills you need to find a good job. 
> I think the point of going to a university is to get an education. If
> you just want skills there are cheaper faster and less painful ways to
> get them.
>> If the college can't teach you any real skills then it is useless in my 
>> opinion.  My experience with BYU was you go to school to learn how to 
>> learn on your own, since most of the professors have no real world 
>> working experience.  
> Regardless of the truth of those statements (I don't believe they are
> true), there is arguably no better skill than knowing how to learn on
> your own.
>> Those who can do and those who can't teach.
> That's a fun little jab thought up by people who can't do either.
>> Besides anyone that is any good in CS is not going to settle for a 
>> professor's salary.
> False by counterexample. Maybe you should be asking yourself why some
> people who are very good at CS _do_ settle for a professor's salary.
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