OOPs I need a book
jonathan at bluesunhosting.com
Tue Nov 7 16:22:36 MST 2006
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> Levi Pearson wrote:
>> On Nov 7, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Jonathan Duncan wrote:
>>> Can anyone suggest to me a programming language agnostic book on OOP
>> I would guess that Chris's suggestion is pretty good, though I haven't
>> read it myself. You will not find a completely agnostic book on OOP
>> theory, though, because object oriented programming isn't sufficiently
>> well-defined. It means very different things to different people, and
>> different languages have their own opinions, so to speak, on what OOP is.
> In particular, you'll find that static typing has a strong effect on
> what people think OOP is. The canonical Design Patterns book expects
> static typing and thus applies well to C++ and Java, but many of the
> patterns become irrelevant when applied to dynamic languages. For
> example, in Python, the factory pattern is in a sense built in to the
> language, since constructors and functions are called the same way.
>> The examples within are in Java, but the concepts translate fairly
>> easily to C++. Although some people are saying these days that design
>> patterns are signs of language deficiency,
> That sentiment comes directly from the LISP community. It's both right
> and wrong. It's right because a more flexible language like LISP lets
> you eliminate the repetition that sometimes arises from design patterns.
> However, another intent of design patterns is to express the design of
> the software to other developers, and that alone has obvious value.
>> Once you get your OOP skills honed, you should try mastering some
>> Functional Programming skills. It's fun, and the wave of the future! ;)
> You may be right. :-)
Chris, Levi, and Shane, thanks for the book ideas. They all look like
pretty good books and have good reviews on Amazon. Maybe I will have to
get all three.
I did not want to mention PHP because it really does not need to be
mentioned, but I am currently delving into PHP 5 and wanted to make sure
my OOP training was well-founded be before I get too far into PHP 5.
While it is a language that I commonly use, I do not want to limit myself.
In college I poked around in Fortran, Lisp, Pascal, Java, and C++. I have
also played with Perl and tcl/tk.
I have never really taken the time, until know, to really build best OOP
practices. I figure it is better late than never. Hence the search for a
good OOP theory book. The design books are welcome also. I have "PHP 5
Objects, Patterns, and Practices" that I have been reading and I have been
realizing that I need to start at a more fundamental level. I was
planning on getting "Beginning PHP 5 and MySQL" and then decided that I
should first go even more fundamental and get into theory.
If any of this information helps clarify what I am looking for I welcome
further book suggestions. If not, I will just decide from among those
that have been given.
I appreciate the help.
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