java follies [was: PHP vs Perl (Put on flame proof gear)]

Jonathan Ellis jonathan at
Mon Mar 20 16:00:28 MST 2006

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:24:17 -0700, "Bryan Sant" <bryan.sant at>
> As far as java being verbose, it's about on par with object-oriented
> C++ code.  You'll never have a type-safe language that's as compact as
> a dynamic language because you're always declaring types.  It's a
> trade-off.  However, with a modern IDE, the task is trival.  And you
> make up any time that may have been lost (I don't believe that any is
> with an IDE), by avoiding many runtime errors that the compiler finds
> for you.

Victor Laszlo had a good post on this:

"It seems obvious to me that the strict typing basically catches errors
in code that you only have to write because of the strict typing."

C++ is history repeated as tragedy. Java is history repeated as farce.  --Scott McKay

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