Daniel C. dcrookston at
Tue Mar 14 06:09:39 MST 2006

On 3/12/06, Hans Fugal <hans at> wrote:
> 1 frames sites are almost always too big for my browser and I end up
>   having to hscroll. I hate hscrolling
> 2 most of the stuff in most of the frames I want to see rarely, but it
>   takes up about half the available space and makes the main content too
>   small or hard to read.
> 3 the wrong frame always has focus and space/pgup/pgdn/up/dn don't work.
>   I hate mousing.
> 4 I fling URLs around like a basketball team player, and my preferred
>   method is to hit cmd-l to get the URL selected, hit cmd-c to copy,
>   cmd-tab to switch to where I'm flinging, and cmd-v to paste. This is
>   very efficient, until a stupid frames site comes along and I get the
>   URL to the main page which is almost worthless. There's the mouse
>   again.
> 5 people who still use frames generally are poor designers anyway so
>   it's a vicious cycle.

1, 2, and 5 are not issues with frames themselves, they're issues with
the way most people use them.  But just because most people use them
that way doesn't mean it's impossible to use them well.

3 and 4 I can see being problems though.

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