Publishing flamebait [Fwd: Pragmatic Bookshelf releases "FromJava To Ruby"]

Hans Fugal hans at
Thu Jun 29 10:23:25 MDT 2006

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 at 09:21 -0700, Ross Werner wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Michael L Torrie wrote:
> >>To really appreciate the benefits of vim/emacs you have to see someone
> >>really proficient in doing the taks with that editor at work. It works
> >>both ways. Are IDEs easier to plod through than vim? yes.
> >
> >Dr. Scott Woodfield in the BYU CS dept is one person who will blow
> >anyone out of the water using vim.  Watching what he can do with vim
> >amazes me.  Honestly, eclipse would just slow him down (although he
> >might be using eclipse for nice build-tool integration these days; I
> >don't know).
> I firmly believe that one can be very, very proficient with vim and yet 
> still prefer Eclipse for Java programming. I don't believe I'm at the Hans 
> Fugal level of vim proficiency, but I think I have a good chance of being 
> in the top 10 of pluggers. Eclipse *does* slow me down in terms of text 
> editing tasks, but I find that all of the other tools it provides more 
> than makes up for that slowness.

I haven't programmed in Java for awhile, but if I did have to do a lot
of Java programming and had to use ant, I may need Eclipse too. I think
this says more about Java than IDEs...
Hans Fugal ;
There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the 
right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.
    -- Johann Sebastian Bach
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