Publishing flamebait [Fwd: Pragmatic Bookshelf releases "From Java To Ruby"]

Charles Curley charlescurley at
Wed Jun 28 16:47:00 MDT 2006

On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 04:09:28PM -0600, Barry Roberts wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 03:41:27PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> > Serious question, not flame bait: what is lacking from Emacs that a
> > "modern" IDE would have? I'm mildly intrigued by Eclipse, but wonder
> > what it has that would be worth trading in my expertise in Emacs to
> > get.
> > 
> I use eclipse for re-factoring and debugging.  Its lack of emacs
> keystroke compatibility drives me nuts, though.
> The big advantage of eclipse, IMO, is that it includes a BUNCH of
> stuff out-of-the-box.  To make emacs an IDE, I have to install jdee
> and all its dependencies, color-theme.el, my .emacs with a bunch of
> c-add-style, add-hook, and global-set-key calls, etc.  The standard
> mail, calendar, version control, diff/merge tools and games that are
> normally available with emacs probably seemed like a lot at some
> point, but discovering what's available and installing it is a major
> headache for most people I've introduced to emacs.

Thanks. Having that stuff easy to intall or ready to go is nice. Last
time I tried installing JDEE it was a bear, but that was a while
ago. I hope it's easier now.


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