Debian vim weirdness

Steve smorrey at
Fri Feb 24 22:51:26 MST 2006

Ok, so /me puts on flame retardant suit...
I use neither vim nor emacs, I've been pretty happy with nano thus far
for text editing, but I think I would like more out of my editor.
I am starting to get into shell scripting, as well as a few other
kinds of scripting after spending a few years doing "real" programming
in C/C++ etc.

I really don't want a full fledged IDE since I have Kdevelop for that,
but just something to quickly change a line or two in a script would
be fantastic.  Hopefully something that can show me line numbers like
Kwrite, so I can quickly find and edit offending lines of code.

I would just keep using Kwrite for this task, however the primary
development environment is a gentoo server I'm connecting to via SSH,
and I really don't want to emerge kde on this box, or for that matter
anywindow manager.

So for this set of tasks, what would be better VIM(and family) or emacs.
Also where can I find a good tutorial for whichever one you think is
best at aimed at a neophyte to the tool?


On 2/24/06, Hans Fugal <hans at> wrote:
> Huh, I never knew this one existed. In the last year or so I've
> gravitated toward vim in a terminal over gvim. In any case I've done
> just fine with the vim-gtk or vim-ruby Debian packages for as long as I
> can remember. I usually install vim-ruby (which includes gtk) with the
> intent of eventually figuring out how to script vim with ruby. I have
> yet to actually do this, or even to learn to script vim in any language
> (aside from syntax files and colorschemes).
> Come to think of it, I stopped using gvim about when they switched to
> gtk2. There were some problems that I would hope have been resolved by
> now. Plus about that time I got my iBook and gvim is not a first-class
> osx app so I just stick with the terminal.
> On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 at 03:34 +0000, Jason Holt wrote:
> >
> > If vim looks different for you debian users, it's because they apparently
> > just made the "vim" package into some sort of stripped down version, while
> > "vim-full" is the vim we've come to know and love (or hate).  "apt-get
> > install vim-full" fixed the problem for me.
> >
> >                                       -J
> >
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