[OT] Are we a democracy or a republic?

Stephen B. Saunders stephen.saunders at denomin.com
Fri Sep 2 22:50:25 MDT 2005

Quoting Michael Torrie <torriem at chem.byu.edu>:

> The entire basis of our nation is compromise between individual rights
> and the good of the entire population (as defined by the majority of the
> population).  It is a compromise between the desire and need for freedom
> and the need for order and progress.  Yes this very founding is, by your
> definition, socialistic.

I disagree.  There is not a direct correlation between sacrifice of rights and
progress.  The exact opposite could be argued - when you fly you are now treated
like a terrorist until proven innocent but you don't arrive sooner to your
destination.  The US was founded a constitutional republic with jealous guards
against political and economic regression into socialism or any other less
limited or desireable form of government.

> I received a wonderful e-mail from a friend of mine that went something
> like this:  We can drink water from our facets and know that we are safe
> to do so because some liberal wacko lobbied the government for stricter
> standards.  Our cars are safe because liberal wackos lobbied the
> government for minimal safety standards like seatbelts and airbags.  Our
> houses aren't in danger of collapse because liberal wackos defined
> strict building codes.  And on and on.  Is this not socialist?  Could
> such things happen without socialist intervention?  Sure.  But at what
> price?

You name it and I'll pay it.  I'll take limited government and happily risk
dirty drinking water, no seatbelts (never use them anyway), and the right to die
of my own stupidity on my own property.

Stephen B. Saunders


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