AIM TOS change

Eric Jensen eric at
Mon Mar 14 17:14:56 MST 2005

Derek Burdick wrote:

> Dan Wilson wrote:
>> On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 11:17 -0700, Eric Jensen wrote:
>>> Steve Dibb wrote:
>>> That is tricky, but with enough exaggerated "hax0r" and various 
>>> security, malware, virus, etc scary stories you can convert most of 
>>> those types.  Something like "AOL *might* read your conversation!", 
>>> all you get is a /shrug.  But if you spin it as them selling their 
>>> information to a 3rd party, especially those interested in identify   
>> I don't think you even need to go there... just quote the AIM TOS:
>> "In addition, by posting Content on an AIM Product, you grant AOL, its
>> parent, affiliates, subsidiaries, assigns, agents and licensees the
>> irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide right to reproduce, display, perform,
>> distribute, adapt and promote this Content in any medium. You waive any
>> right to privacy. You waive any right to inspect or approve uses of the
>> Content or to be compensated for any such uses."
>> I sent that to a couple buddies and they are switching.  AOL doesn't
>> mince words with this and it's pretty scary for most people... even if
>> they don't use it for anything other than simple chit-chat.
>> -Dan
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> Is sending an instant message considered posting?  From
> post1    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pst)
> n.
> A long piece of wood or other material set upright into the ground to 
> serve as a marker or support.
> A similar vertical support or structure, as:
>    A support for a beam in the framework of a building.
>    A terminal of a battery.
> Sports. A goal post.
> The starting point at a racetrack.
> The slender barlike part of a stud earring that passes through the ear 
> and is secured at the back with a small cap or clip.
> An electronic message sent to a newsgroup: ignored several 
> inflammatory posts.
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AOL is now claiming that by "posting" they meant in their hosted forums 
only.  Not in private instant messages.  They have gotten a lot of 
flack, so not sure if this is true or just back peddling.

Eric Jensen

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