In-house Hosting Options

Josh Coates jcoates at
Fri Mar 4 09:51:47 MST 2005

>Like Sun hardware - come now... High end sun hardware kills PCs

right - that's why there are so many high-end sun machines in the top500
supercomputers (  oh wait, um...there are hardly any suns

hey - wait a second..what's this?  a whole bunch of PC clusters in the
top500?  gee, that's weird...  ;-)


the big-iron SMP vs shared-nothing cluster debate rages on, but high-end sun
hardware, along with all the other monolithic smp machines have been
trailing on price/performance for quite a while now.  shared-nothing pc
clusters simply dominate raw performance as well as price/performance - not
to mention ease of provisioning.

Josh Coates

-----Original Message-----
From: plug-bounces at [mailto:plug-bounces at]On Behalf Of
Peter Bowen
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:07 AM
To: Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: In-house Hosting Options

Sasha Pachev wrote:

> > So I take that's what the advantage of T1s are?  I never understood
> that either as DSL can go faster then a T1 and significantly cheaper,
> but I haven't seen a way to combine the bandwidth for one IP.  I've
> also seen DC3 connections from a few ISPs that are up to 20,000 a
> month.  But still at a very poor bandwidth.  I just don't understand
> what makes these different connections so special.
> Perceived value :-) Kind of like Sun hardware. Sometimes people feel
> more comfortable when they have paid more, and the market is quite to
> respond for the need for this warm and cozy feeling.
> For the bandwidth solution - the first thing that comes to mind. If
> collocation is too expensive, get as many cheap 1.5 MBit/s lines as
> needed with different IP addresses and use iptables + round-robin DNS.
> Near-perfect uptime is expensive, the closer you try to get to
> perfect, and in many cases overvalued. I would venture to say that for
> a regular web application, if your site beats the reliability of their
> desktop , most of your clients will be satisfied. Once you reach a
> certain point, it is wise to spend your resources on the things that
> matter more especially when those resources are limited.
Like Sun hardware - come now... High end sun hardware kills PCs - On the
other hand who wants to run the family site on an E10K. :)  Every tool
has a job.

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