Languages and Books

Josh Coates jcoates at
Thu Jul 21 14:41:19 MDT 2005

> I've been strictly a web scripter with Perl and PHP and I am wanting to
branch out...Anyhoo, recommendations are very appreciated.

this is probably more than you wanted to hear, but i sincerely believe this:

i dont know what station in life you're at, but if it seems do-able, put
your career on hold and i'd try to get into the hardest/best rated computer
science 4 year program you can find in the country, that will accept you.
take out a student loan if necessary.

go pay your dues, invest in yourself.  it's worth the time/money.

if you are 'old' and going (back) to school is not something you can
reasonably do, then go find some really smart people working on a really
smart project and hope they let you do some menial related work - take a pay
cut if you have to.  surround yourself with people smarter than you and if
necessary, get out of utah if it's required (but come back after you are
done and help out around here!)

again, pay your dues, invest in yourself.


Josh Coates

-----Original Message-----
From: plug-bounces at [mailto:plug-bounces at] On Behalf Of Eric
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: plug at
Subject: Languages and Books

I've been strictly a web scripter with Perl and PHP and I am wanting to
branch out.  I've seen you guys talk about all kinds of books and languages
and so I am asking for a few recommendations and opinions.  I took a C/C++
class 6 or 7 years ago and have been really thinking of resuming that so I
can make some Windows/X-Windows apps.  I'd rather learn on my own since my
last C/C++ instructor was horrid.  He was way too hard core nerd and loved
math and Fortran.  Out of 30+ students, 2 would pass his Intro class and
that is because it was their 2nd or 3rd time through.  He eventually had a
nervous break down and they found him running around town naked and
screaming incomprehensibly.  So I am a little hesitant to go that route
again.  Anyhoo, recommendations are very appreciated.


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