Slightly OT: Pete Ashdown for Utah Senator in 2006

Josh Coates jcoates at
Mon Jul 11 17:28:12 MDT 2005

>Political scientists with a game-theoretical bent have been talking
>about this for a long, long time.

this reminds me of our california governer election - and boy, was this
hashed out pretty good.

this, IMHO, is THE answer: [flash req'd]

lame text version for those non-flash users:

anyway, it's instant runoff elections.  they make all the sense in the
world, and they prevent the "clinton wins because of bush voters voting for
perot" problem (if you think it was a problem) we had in 1992.

of course, there is a question about the usefulness of pete ashdown even
running for senate in the first place.  if he's really serious, it seems
like he should maybe start out running for city council, then maybe after a
few years run for mayor, then consider national politics.  or if he's not
really serious about politics, maybe he should just take out a full page ad
in the new york times stating his political ideas, and then donate the rest
of his would-be campaign money to aids orphans in africa or something
actually useful.

my $.02 [with my 135-candidate-california-governer-recall-election-baggage]

Josh Coates

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To: Joel Shellman; Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Pete Ashdown for Utah Senator in 2006

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:56:41 -0400, "Joel Shellman"
<jshellman at> said:
> On 7/11/05, Topher Fischer <javert42 at> wrote:
> > Ya, but why would you want to waste your vote on a third-party
> > (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
> Has there been anyone with any reasonable amount of notice or
> influence that has suggested changing the absurd one person one vote
> system we currently have?

Political scientists with a game-theoretical bent have been talking
about this for a long, long time.

Of course switching to approval voting or any of the alternatives will
never happen, because the biggest losers would be exactly those who have
the most power currently.

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