Defining Libertarianism (was Defining Terrorism)

Russel Caldwell caldr704 at gmail.com
Thu Jun 27 08:01:26 MDT 2013


I don't say this much but LOL. Truthfully, I'm such an old fogy I may not
have ever said it.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:28 AM, S. Dale Morrey <sdalemorrey at gmail.com>wrote:

> I doubt that's in question at all.
>
> Let's see here...
>
> We are a loosely associated group of privacy and freedom loving hackers
> mostly living within 20 miles of the new NSA datacenter in Bluffdale.
> We all feel that we are Patriots and most of us have guns and are willing
> to use them in the defence of our homes and our freedoms.
>
> In the past week alone we have discussed the following topics.
>
> Edward Snowden and his whereabouts.  The underwear bomber, the shoe
> bomber.  Bombing in general, violent action to protect our rights and
> general insurrection.
> The right to form militias and what the purpose of militia's are.
> We have not ruled out the possibility of violently overthrowing the US
> government, although probably not as a group.
>
> We have discussed long term storage and preparation albeit this was about
> data.
> We also had conversations about running secret datacenters in our home.
> We've talked about Linux, the deepweb, tor, darknets, i2p.  Also strong
> encryption, AES, SHA, Quantum Cryptography.
> We discussed how to avoid Prizm and we've discussed the fact that the
> people responsible for it should be hung for treason.
>
> We've discussed waterboarding and terrorist investigative techniques.
> The second amendment, the first amendment, pretty much all of the others.
> Fundamentalist Christianity, Fundamentalist Islam.  Jihad and Holy War.
> War in general.  Peace and Peace in general.
> The rights of sovereign nations, the rights of states.
> We've declared (well at least I have, and since I saw no disagreement I
> think we all concur) that the US government is a state sponsor of terrorism
> and we've essentially been egging on the less mentally stable among
> ourselves to take violent action against Obama and the United State Federal
> Government government for allowing baby killings and taxing our income.
>
> That's just the cliffs notes version of it.
>
> Frankly I'd like to take the time to extend a warm welcome to the NSA, CIA,
> FBI, IRS, TSA and every other TLA or LEA which wasn't watching us before.
> Don't worry about us, we're mostly harmless, mostly.
> We do have meetings once a month where we get together and discuss pretty
> much the same stuff we do here, still you're welcome to drop by, just ask
> Steve Meyers for the time, date and location, it changes pretty
> frequently.  Ohh and if you come please bring pizza.
>
> As for the rest of the list, sorry for any troubles you may have on your
> next flight :)
>
> Hold on someone's at the door.
>
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> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Russel Caldwell <caldr704 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM, S. Dale Morrey <sdalemorrey at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Jeez I really need to get off gmail.
> > > Now the ads are mentioning that I should get concealed weapons training
> > > "before I need it".
> > > Then in the right hand column, "In house SWAT training, learn to defend
> > > yourself like a pro!"
> > >
> > > It's almost as bad as the ads I used to see telling me that they could
> > see
> > > me IP address and that I should use their software to eliminate my IP
> > > address.
> > >
> > > The only real question at this point is if this thread is now drawing
> the
> > attention of the NSA ;).
> > --
> > "The legitimate purpose of formalization lies in the reduction of the
> tacit
> > coefficient to more limited and obvious informal operations; but it is
> > nonsensical to aim at the total elimination of our personal
> participation."
> > -- Michael Polanyi
> >
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"The legitimate purpose of formalization lies in the reduction of the tacit
coefficient to more limited and obvious informal operations; but it is
nonsensical to aim at the total elimination of our personal participation."
-- Michael Polanyi


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