Defining Libertarianism (was Defining Terrorism)

S. Dale Morrey sdalemorrey at gmail.com
Thu Jun 27 07:09:14 MDT 2013


I for one welcome our new Three Letter Agency overlords.
Also I was just inspired to check my Casio watch and realized it's probably
time for another meeting soon.
As I said before, please bring pizza.  I prefer pepperoni myself, not sure
about the rest of the group.


On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Alan Young <alansyoungiii at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, that did it.  That email was loaded enough to set off alarm bells for
> even the National Archives security forces ...
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:28 AM, S. Dale Morrey <sdalemorrey at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I doubt that's in question at all.
> >
> > Let's see here...
> >
> > We are a loosely associated group of privacy and freedom loving hackers
> > mostly living within 20 miles of the new NSA datacenter in Bluffdale.
> > We all feel that we are Patriots and most of us have guns and are willing
> > to use them in the defence of our homes and our freedoms.
> >
> > In the past week alone we have discussed the following topics.
> >
> > Edward Snowden and his whereabouts.  The underwear bomber, the shoe
> > bomber.  Bombing in general, violent action to protect our rights and
> > general insurrection.
> > The right to form militias and what the purpose of militia's are.
> > We have not ruled out the possibility of violently overthrowing the US
> > government, although probably not as a group.
> >
> > We have discussed long term storage and preparation albeit this was about
> > data.
> > We also had conversations about running secret datacenters in our home.
> > We've talked about Linux, the deepweb, tor, darknets, i2p.  Also strong
> > encryption, AES, SHA, Quantum Cryptography.
> > We discussed how to avoid Prizm and we've discussed the fact that the
> > people responsible for it should be hung for treason.
> >
> > We've discussed waterboarding and terrorist investigative techniques.
> > The second amendment, the first amendment, pretty much all of the others.
> > Fundamentalist Christianity, Fundamentalist Islam.  Jihad and Holy War.
> > War in general.  Peace and Peace in general.
> > The rights of sovereign nations, the rights of states.
> > We've declared (well at least I have, and since I saw no disagreement I
> > think we all concur) that the US government is a state sponsor of
> terrorism
> > and we've essentially been egging on the less mentally stable among
> > ourselves to take violent action against Obama and the United State
> Federal
> > Government government for allowing baby killings and taxing our income.
> >
> > That's just the cliffs notes version of it.
> >
> > Frankly I'd like to take the time to extend a warm welcome to the NSA,
> CIA,
> > FBI, IRS, TSA and every other TLA or LEA which wasn't watching us before.
> > Don't worry about us, we're mostly harmless, mostly.
> > We do have meetings once a month where we get together and discuss pretty
> > much the same stuff we do here, still you're welcome to drop by, just ask
> > Steve Meyers for the time, date and location, it changes pretty
> > frequently.  Ohh and if you come please bring pizza.
> >
> > As for the rest of the list, sorry for any troubles you may have on your
> > next flight :)
> >
> > Hold on someone's at the door.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Russel Caldwell <caldr704 at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM, S. Dale Morrey <
> sdalemorrey at gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jeez I really need to get off gmail.
> > > > Now the ads are mentioning that I should get concealed weapons
> training
> > > > "before I need it".
> > > > Then in the right hand column, "In house SWAT training, learn to
> defend
> > > > yourself like a pro!"
> > > >
> > > > It's almost as bad as the ads I used to see telling me that they
> could
> > > see
> > > > me IP address and that I should use their software to eliminate my IP
> > > > address.
> > > >
> > > > The only real question at this point is if this thread is now drawing
> > the
> > > attention of the NSA ;).
> > > --
> > > "The legitimate purpose of formalization lies in the reduction of the
> > tacit
> > > coefficient to more limited and obvious informal operations; but it is
> > > nonsensical to aim at the total elimination of our personal
> > participation."
> > > -- Michael Polanyi
> > >
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> Alan Young
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