klsmith2020 at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 25 15:59:27 MDT 2013
Info about the meeting in Ten is all over the place. I read about it at the time and shortly there after. What can I say.
--- On Tue, 6/25/13, Joshua Fenio <std3rr at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Joshua Fenio <std3rr at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Defining Terrorism
To: "Provo Linux Users Group" <plug at plug.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013, 2:45 PM
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:57 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Killian and the FBI want us to know it is against federal law to speak
> out against political Islam. What federal law? Where is it against the
> law to speak your mind in a free America? The mere thought that the DOJ
> and the FBI can come into small town America and say what we can and
> cannot do is preposterous and begs one to ask what are their motives
> inside our Constitutional Republic and where they are aligned?
Oh, come on now. That's absolute hogwash. Do you really believe the
federal government is "criminalizing negative posts against political
Islam"? Because you read it on some guy's Wordpress blog? Seriously?
There are a lot of problems with the U.S. government, regarding which we
can speak at length, civilly, rationally, and with facts. Yes, I believe
in the freedom - right - to bear arms. No, I don't think the government is
going to come in black helicopters and take my extensive collection of
scary black guns. Yes, the FISA courts need more transparency and stricter
warrant requirements, and much more oversight. No, I don't believe the
government is compiling a personality profile on me, or is preparing me for
brainwashing, or whatever (I'm not really caught up on all of the new
conspiracy theories, forgive me). Yes, I think 9/11 allowed the executive
branch to grab too much power, and provoked two thoughtless wars. No, I
don't think the government brought down the towers in a controlled
Look, I had boots on the ground in Afghanistan a handful of months after
9/11. I was in Iraq for the better part of two years. The idea that the
federal government is competent enough to orchestrate any of these things
is ludicrous. Do I believe the NSA has employees and higher ups peeking in
on private conversations without warrants? Probably. And they shouldn't.
But it's not some grand conspiracy to deploy Sharia law in the United
States. In large bureaucracies, it's not some shadowy puppet master
controlling the strings - it's mostly drones committing these tiny evils
that snowball on their own.
Does that mean you shouldn't complain or protest these violations of your
rights? Absolutely not! But you can't start screaming about ridiculous
conspiracy theories and expect to be taken seriously. If that's one thing
libertarians have going against them, it's that. You need to organize,
formulate your complaints intelligently and with dignity, and replace the
offenders according to the Constitution - especially in the legislative
branch. You can't demand to see Obama's birth certificate, you can't rant
about, of all things, the federal government outlawing negative comments
about Muslims. You'd think FOX News would be shutdown by Friday if that
were the case.
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