Did Ed Snowden do the right thing?

keith smith klsmith2020 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 10 15:45:50 MDT 2013


Yes God did order the death and destruction of his enemies.  God makes no secret of it, sin leads to death.  He did the same with Sodom and Gomorrah, however He himself provided the cause of death - Genesis 19:24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens..  God also killed the first born of Egypt on Passover.

These are all Old testament.  We are under a different covenant.  The New Testament says in Romans 12 that we must live in peace as long as it is up to us.  God Himself has not changed, he has changed his Covenant with Man which now includes all not just Israel (the people not the land).

You have to read the Bible to truly understand God.  If it is possible to truly understand God.  What I do know is accepting Jesus is the only way for me.

 

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Keith Smith

--- On Mon, 6/10/13, Todd Millecam <tyggna at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Todd Millecam <tyggna at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Did Ed Snowden do the right thing?
To: "Provo Linux Users Group" <plug at plug.org>
Date: Monday, June 10, 2013, 2:13 PM

First, let me make my position clear:  Christian, Mormon specifically,
active practicing, largely believing.


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Please provide examples of contradictions and I will provide answers.


So, contradiction that was asked for:
  God gave the commandments to Moses of "Thou shalt not kill" (or murder,
think this has been pretty well covered in the thread).  40 years later the
children of the exact same people were told to conquer caanan for their
own, which included essentially burning everything in the land to the
ground and killing any who opposed them.  Little more down the line, God
tells king Saul (through Samuel) to kill every man, woman, infant and
suckling, camel, cow, and sheep of the Amalekites.

I don't particularly care for your answer--it wouldn't mean anything to me
personally, so I'll provide my own.

Now, how I resolve it:
  I have an incredibly incomplete historical context of biblical times.
Most people seem to believe that the U.S. is justified in hunting down
terrorists, and our foreign policy seems to indicate that if a terrorist is
hiding behind children (a very common practice) that killing the terrorist
is the priority--since often the alleged terrorist will rape and then kill
the child they're using later if it's a girl, or recruit/torture if its a
boy.   Contrast that to ancient times, I don't know what was happening in
canaan, nor what was so wrong with the Amalekites.  So, I'm left with two
options:  believe that God did actually say those things and that if I
could see the context with great clarity then it'd make sense to me, or
believe that the record was tampered with to fit the political whims of
their day--not that much different from what I see in modern media of my
own time.

So, to tie back to original topic:  Ed Snowden.  Either I'm suspicious of
my government, or trusting of them.  Those are my choices.  Personally, I'm
inclined to be suspicious on grounds of what I percieve as the government's
incompetance.  So, I think in terms of ethics, yes, he did do the right
thing and he did it in a rather noble way--sacrificing his career and his
life simply to share information.  None of the information shared was
compromising, and only time will tell if it saved or cost any lives (which
is a good measure of morality, with a secondary measure as to how our
actions impact the quality of life).
I do think his actions have improved the quality of life for Verizon
users.  I mean, I think there are enough antiquated laws that a
particularly knowledgable or vindictive government worker could really do a
lot of harm with a person's phone records.  I know that's a pretty abstract
example, but it's just one that comes to mind spending a few seconds
thinking about potentially damaging effects of having all your phone
conversations being publically known.


-- 
Todd Millecam

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