Jason Klebs jasonk at
Thu Dec 12 12:19:57 MST 2013

Yes, and not using opportunistic encryption is something security
experts have been screaming about for years.

Also, in some more recent revelations:

Because Google is not using SSL/TLS by default for every connection, the
government snoops are piggy-backing off the tracking cookie(s) Google
uses to track every search - even when not signed in.


On 12/12/2013 12:15 PM, justin wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Grant Shipley <gshipley at> wrote:
>> If the corporations didn't allow
>> government snooping there wouldn't be an issue.
> Easier said than done. Google had to encrypt all their in-network
> replication traffic because the government was snooping on the wires their
> traffic was going over, right?
> --j

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