Linux laptops, revisited (can any sleep like my PowerBook does?)
levi at cold.org
Tue Jan 22 10:07:49 MST 2008
Von Fugal <von at fugal.net> writes:
> Woah woah, hold on, stop and evaluate. Since when is the "right to
> control how your personal creations are used" a God given or intrinsic
> right?? I dare say it's not! Your _property_ is one thing, but as soon
> as you give something to somebody else, for whatever reason, it ceases
> to be your property. Can I get another AMEN!
You seem to be arguing for the right to reverse-engineer things here.
I'm all for that. I, on the other hand, was arguing that if I
distribute a compiled version of a program of my creation, I shouldn't
be compelled to distribute the source code as well.
You may also be making an anti-copyright stand here. While copyright
certainly isn't an intrinsic right, it is a negotiable one, and one
that pretty much all current governments recognize. I think it's
potentially a good thing, but currently subject to abuse.
>> Any assertion that those rights *are* universal must be religious,
>> since they clearly aren't fundamental to human nature and only God
>> could choose to grant them universally. :P
> As well to copyright.
I wasn't talking about copyright, and it's clearly not universal.
> Yeah, calling the FSF principles "rights" might be in poor taste, but
> copyright itself is absolutely in poor taste itself. I'm not totally
> against copyright, I think it has in cases some merit. But to call it
> a "right" just rocks my boat.
They are rights, but they are not intrinsic rights. One can provide
those rights in respect to specific software by licensing it with a
Free Software approved license. My objection to the Free Software
Foundation is that they advocate placing all software under a
compatible license as a moral imperative.
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