[OT] Re: HB 139 Meeting Today ?

[Nathan Blackham]

On Feb 8, 2008 10:43 AM, Jason Hall <jayce at lug-nut.com> wrote:

> On Feb 8, 2008 9:58 AM, Nathan Blackham <kemotaha at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 8, 2008 9:38 AM, Mister E <Mister.Ed at agoracart.com> wrote:
> > The ACLU will fight any fight that is against civil rights.  They are
> > blind
> > when it comes to other issues.  Yes this means they have supporters who
> > are
> > communists or socialist.  Primarily because they fight for their
> > liberties.
> > If it is an issue where civil rights are involved the ACLU will gladly
> > help.  That would be the case if a religion was discriminated against as
> > well as race or creed.  Just because they have backed seemly evil ideas
> > doesn't mean the organizations is evil.
>
>
> They will blindly fight for their perception (the perception of the given
> lawyer) of specific rights, and *against* others.  Research each case, and
> the motives each time.
>
>
> >  You need to be
> > careful to actually look at why an organization or movement exist before
> > calling it evil.
> >
>
> Roger Baldwin founder of the ACLU stated:
>
> "We are for Socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the
> state
> itself. We seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the
> propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth.
> Communism is the goal."
>
> While he later expelled Soviet socialists from the group, that was limited
> to Stalinistic communism only, as with many other groups that were
> leninistic.
> --
> Jayce^
>

So in the begining that was their agenda.  I point you to there current
page:
http://aclu.org/about/index.html

"The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of these protections and
guarantees:

   - Your First Amendment rights - freedom of speech, association and
   assembly; freedom of the press, and freedom of religion.
   - Your right to equal protection under the law - equal treatment
   regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin.
   - Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government
   whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.
   - Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government
   intrusion into your personal and private affairs."



Nathan