Debian vim weirdness
smorrey at gmail.com
Fri Feb 24 22:51:26 MST 2006
Ok, so /me puts on flame retardant suit...
I use neither vim nor emacs, I've been pretty happy with nano thus far
for text editing, but I think I would like more out of my editor.
I am starting to get into shell scripting, as well as a few other
kinds of scripting after spending a few years doing "real" programming
in C/C++ etc.
I really don't want a full fledged IDE since I have Kdevelop for that,
but just something to quickly change a line or two in a script would
be fantastic. Hopefully something that can show me line numbers like
Kwrite, so I can quickly find and edit offending lines of code.
I would just keep using Kwrite for this task, however the primary
development environment is a gentoo server I'm connecting to via SSH,
and I really don't want to emerge kde on this box, or for that matter
So for this set of tasks, what would be better VIM(and family) or emacs.
Also where can I find a good tutorial for whichever one you think is
best at aimed at a neophyte to the tool?
On 2/24/06, Hans Fugal <hans at fugal.net> wrote:
> Huh, I never knew this one existed. In the last year or so I've
> gravitated toward vim in a terminal over gvim. In any case I've done
> just fine with the vim-gtk or vim-ruby Debian packages for as long as I
> can remember. I usually install vim-ruby (which includes gtk) with the
> intent of eventually figuring out how to script vim with ruby. I have
> yet to actually do this, or even to learn to script vim in any language
> (aside from syntax files and colorschemes).
> Come to think of it, I stopped using gvim about when they switched to
> gtk2. There were some problems that I would hope have been resolved by
> now. Plus about that time I got my iBook and gvim is not a first-class
> osx app so I just stick with the terminal.
> On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 at 03:34 +0000, Jason Holt wrote:
> > If vim looks different for you debian users, it's because they apparently
> > just made the "vim" package into some sort of stripped down version, while
> > "vim-full" is the vim we've come to know and love (or hate). "apt-get
> > install vim-full" fixed the problem for me.
> > -J
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