Graphing packet loss

Josh Coates jcoates at archive.org
Fri Dec 30 09:58:29 MST 2005


> This guy called up digis and basically Digis said "Get lost, F  you". 
> You are welcome to talk to him.  He is trying to get a 
> petition to getther to incourage the FCC to inforce its laws. 
> I am not associated with him at all. I think his name is Alan.

okay, so "some guy" you know called them, and you "think" his name is alan?
and you get digis signals in your basement so clearly they are doing
something illegal?

that's you evidence?

that's your justification?

very professional.  good luck with your isp.

hope karma catches up to you.

-josh 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-bounces at plug.org [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org] On 
> Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:53 AM
> To: Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Graphing packet loss
> 
> 
> > 
> >  
> >
> >>Digis has ruined the 2.4 spectrum here in the Utah with all their 
> >>illegal signal levels.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >unless you can prove that, that sounds a lot like corporate 
> defamation 
> >to me.
> >
> >  
> >
> Hmm, talk to any other wisp in utah including the guy who 
> runs digis?   
> Go inside a basement with a laptop, and see if you can see a 
> Digis AP show up.  Simply ask your buddy at digis if his amps 
> + antenna put him over the FCC limits? I bet there is 
> somebody in utah that has a spectrum anyalizer that can back it up.
> 
> 
> >and if you can prove illegal activity, why don't you call up the 
> >founder/president of digis (i've spoken with him several times, he's 
> >easy to get on the phone) and ask him to stop?
> >  
> >
> This guy called up digis and basically Digis said "Get lost, F  you". 
> You are welcome to talk to him.  He is trying to get a 
> petition to getther to incourage the FCC to inforce its laws. 
> I am not associated with him at all. I think his name is Alan.
> 
>  American Internet 371-0750
> 
> 
> >and if you do, why don't you help educate the community and 
> tell us how 
> >it went?
> >
> >  
> >
> Yep, they said "F off"
> 
> 
> 
> >(btw - i'm back on plug for a while, so all you over-sensitive 
> >crybabies can put me in your killfile again if you'd like.)
> >
> >  
> >
> I hope I dont sound sensitive.  You kind of do..  hehe he. 
> Flame right back at ya.
> 
> 
> - Dave
> 
> >>inal Message-----
> >>From: plug-bounces at plug.org [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org] On 
> >>Behalf Of Dave
> >>Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:27 PM
> >>To: Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List
> >>Subject: Re: Graphing packet loss
> >>
> >>You might find out an IP address to the Access point  he 
> connects to. 
> >>Then you can ping the Access point, also ping someplace a few 
> >>hops beyond his ISP.  If you can ping the AP and loose 
> >>packets at the ISP level, the ISP is over provisioned. If you 
> >>loose packets at to the AP it could be a signal issue.  If he 
> >>in using 2.4 spectrum, the problem is almost for sure Digis 
> >>noise pollution. Digis has ruined the 2.4 spectrum here in 
> >>the Utah with all their illegal signal levels.
> >>
> >>Josh Coates wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>smokeping is easy and all it does is graph packet loss.  i use it. 
> >>>(http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/smokeping/_
> >>>plus it's kind of neat looking.
> >>>
> >>>-josh
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: plug-bounces at plug.org [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org] 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>On Behalf 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>Of Hans Fugal
> >>>>Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 5:11 PM
> >>>>To: plug at plug.org
> >>>>Subject: Graphing packet loss
> >>>>
> >>>>My dad is having serious come-and-go packet loss issues 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>with his ISP 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>(a Vernal local wireless setup). I'd like to give him 
> some leverage 
> >>>>with some nice cacti graphs of packet loss, but I'm having 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>a hard time 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>pinning down precisely what to graph.
> >>>>
> >>>>The following is an excerpt of /proc/net/snmp:
> >>>>
> >>>>Tcp: RtoAlgorithm RtoMin RtoMax MaxConn ActiveOpens PassiveOpens 
> >>>>AttemptFails EstabResets CurrEstab InSegs OutSegs 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>RetransSegs InErrs 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>OutRsts
> >>>>
> >>>>Would any of those directly measure packet loss? If not, 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>might some of 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>the stats in /proc/net/tcp (or anywhere else) have the 
> information 
> >>>>(which I could then get into SNMP easy enough).
> >>>>
> >>>>It'd be really nice if I could tell on the router what kind 
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>of packet 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>loss is happening, but I'm not sure you can do that, and 
> since the 
> >>>>subnet is a whole two computers that's not a big issue.
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Hans Fugal ; http://hans.fugal.net
> >>>>
> >>>>There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the 
> >>>>right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.
> >>>>   -- Johann Sebastian Bach
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
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